Question:
Do you think Nick should have brought Natalie
across at the end of Last Knight?

Sharon Bauman

Yes and No. Yes, in the hopes that this would create a fourth season at some future time and could open up new story lines showing how Natalie reacts to learning to be a vampire and how Nick reacts to having brought Natalie across. The writers could also introduce an element of conflict between Natalie and LaCroix, who did not see Natalie as a threat while she was mortal, but would see her as a threat to his relationship with Nick once she became a vampire. No in the sense that there's the continuing conflict of Nick wanting to be a vampire and wanting to be mortal again. If Natalie were brought across, she'd have no reason to try to find a "cure" for Nick. After all, they'd be together in all senses if she were brought across. So that would eliminate her motivation for making him mortal. One of the enduring charms of the series has been Nick's conflict about his vampirism and his [thinking] he wants to be human again. Bring Natalie across, and that removes the incentive for wanting to be mortal again. After all, he does have some feelings for her [especially since Janette's not around any more]. If Janette were still in the picture, I don't think I'd want Nick to bring Natalie across. Then there's no vampire-human passion; vampire-vampire passion. Not to mention the interaction between the two women! However, if the only way we viewers could have another season of FK was to have Nick bring Natalie across, I'd say "hurry up and finish the transformation" and get on with the series!

Katherine

No. Unless that was his only option, which wasn't the case in Last Knight. LaCroix and Nick were too quick to judge the situation. Nick (or LaCroix, if that were the case) could have given her a small transfusion of his blood. It wouldn't have been enough to bring her across, but she would heal. See: Fallen Idol. The show must balance the human and vampire characters, the symbolic good and evil. Plus, a cast too heavy on vampire characters stretches believability. How many vampires can a city support? Last, but not least, Catherine Disher has been quoted as saying that she doesn't want her character to become a vampire, because of the contacts and fangs she would have to wear. The actor should always have input on those kinds of decisions.

Joseph Cohen

Yes, since I always wanted Nick to return to his vampire nature and if Natalie was brought across this no doubt would help him on his way. Also so there would be another season.

Jessica Roop

Wow. I really don't know what to say about this. But, I think my answer would be... well... no, wait. It'd really depend. Nick's brought across people before (such as Nat's brother) who were wonderful people in the beginning, and then turned into horrible killer vampires after they were brought across. Would Nat be like that? But... I think he should of brought her across. If she would of become a savage vampire, I think Nick would of staked her, no matter how much in pained him to see her go. But if she became a "good vampire" (as good as vampires can get...), I think he should of brought her across. But, I guess he wouldn't know what kind of vampire she'd be until he brought her across in the first place. (Am I confusing you? I'm confusing myself.)

Beverly Turner

NO! I don't think Nat would make a very good vampire. I don't think they needed to drain her dry and leave her for dead either. I do think that if Nick really loved her he would have done it though. Him wanting to die was a little much, touching, but a little too much.

June

That's the *least* that should've happened! *ANY*thing but the way it ended would've been preferred I think.

Eliz

As much as I don't want to see her as a vampire, Nick should of brought her across, just like she told him to. She gave him instructions and he shouldn't of deviated from them. Argh! I really don't like even thinking about that episode. I've seen it once and only once and that was in a dark room with a candle.

Arletta Asbury

It is certainly preferrable to just letting her die! However, my first choice would be for him to have rushed her to a hospital. And if she couldn't be revived at the hospital, THEN he should bring her across. I believe they belong together and .... ultimately.... together as vampires. It's just that I'm not quite ready to see that. I think they have quite a few more episodes necessary to work out everything first, before they get to that point.

Kathleen Devanney

I'm really torn about this. I thing Nick and Natalie shoud be together forever. And yet, I agreed with Nick that he would be condemninng her to eternal damnation. And yet: Love?? I a single, independent, and feminist-to-the-core person, chooses eternal live. Bring her over. Janette, LaCroix, and Nicholas have done it. Why not Natalie?

Ken Kapoor

Eeeeewwwwwwwww!!!!! No, no, no, uh-uh, nyet!! I can just imagine an immortal Natalie--Nag, nag, nag for eternity!!! So THAT explains why Nick wanted LaCroix to kill him: "Please Lacroix, end my suffering! She's still alive!!!!" <putting on my flame-resistant jacket> ;)

Chris Baxter

No I don't. I suppose it partly depends on what you believe was Natalie's real request. I tend to think she told Nick she was ready for anything including death, and left the decision in his hands, and that he made the right one for both of them. I don't think Natalie could accept the bloodlust and violence and loss of control that seem to be the lot of new vampires and still be Natalie, and if she was changed by it, it would destroy Nick. Whether she hates being a vampire or likes it, they'd both be trapped for eternity in an existence he already finds unbearable, and if Nick can be happy as a vampire with her then I think the characters are destroyed anyhow, certainly my interest in them is. Nick's struggle to escape an existence he finds wrong and intolerable and to recover his humanity by living a good and useful life in the mortal world, is what fascinated me to begin with, not the vampire fun and games. I like to see him in his careful imitation of a mortal life he doesn't completely understand, torn by the lure of power and licentiousness on the vampire side and his dreams of human happiness with Nat on the other. In my heart I want to see them end up happy and Nick mortal (after several more seasons or movies), but I'd accept undefeated and maintaining. What I don't want is Nick beaten and resigned to his fate, or even worse, pleased with it, and Nat a contented killer. (Yes, I'd rather see them dead than defeated. :)) I suppose it's different if you are one who believes Nat told him to bring her across if the cure didn't work. In any event what I really think Nick should have done is to tell LaCroix to move on without him and get a life, and then hug Natalie and feed her hot chocolate till she came to her senses.

Lee Hickling

From an artistic point of view, Last Knight ended was probably the best way to end the series. From a fan's point of view it was shocking and depressing, and some of us are still recovering from that. As for the question: Given that Nick had already taken too much blood from Natalie, he had only two options: let her die, or bring her across. He had no right to decide that for her. He should have brought her across, and then let her decide whether she wanted to live on as one of the undead.

Ellen Ashton-Haiste

I guess I'd have to say "no" just because, if he had I think the future storylines would be more limited. I have read some interesting fiction on Natalie as a vampire. But, on the whole, I think the scenario now allows much more latitude. Natalie has just enough vampire blood to create this new bond with Nick, to make her nervous and create some tension but is still in the mortal world. So the eternal question of "can they ever be together?" "will she find a cure?" "can she love the beast as well as the man and in so doing make him mortal again (à la fairy tale)?" All these ideas will provide (and are providing) great fodder for fiction and for the virtual season. I think if Nat had become a vampire the possibilities would definitely have been more limited.

Amanda Hardy

Oh, definitely. With Nat still "alive" she could've continued working on a cure. Sure, it would've been a little tougher, what with her working around so much blood and so many recently dead corpses, but she could manage. Hey, she could've invited some of the Raven crowd over for a buffet!

Jennifer G. Brown-Chartier

Yes Nick should of brought Nat across. It would of been interesting to see how Lacroix would of dealt with it. I can see LaCroix and Nat fighting over him....

Annette Williams

No! Because Nick hated his existence as a Vampire more than anything. He would be even less of a companion in darkness as he was in her mortal state.

SweetSavag

I think Nick should have brought her across. It would have given the show a new and exciting plots. That was, if it wasn't cancelled by the powers above...

Julian Luna

Yes I do, I think that the show would end better that way, because to Nick and Natalie a new life would begin, besides it would give a better chance for the show to come back. And it would be quite interesting to see how Nick would be as a maker, a father etc. And what Lacroix would think of it.

Reva

No, I don't. Her intention was to make Nick mortal by making love. I do not think she would have been happy being a vampire since she knew all the torment Nick went through. Their relationship would have been destroyed as Nick could not have lived with himself if he had brought her across.

Naomi S. Engle

I do NOT think Natalie should be brought across. It would destroy the relationship between her and Nick. He was attracted to her because he hoped she could make him become mortal. He has resisted bringing her across because he did not want her to share his darkness. He is also probably afraid of what would happen once she became a vampire. She could turn into a vicious killer. I think the show should have ended on an open note with their continued quest for finding a cure for his vampirism. To quote other on this list. Last Knight never happened. Someone suggested that if the series had to end the tag of Fallen Idol would have been the best ending. I agree. I liked the humor and the companionship they displayed when she put her hand on his leg and he covered her hand with his. She asked what's on with the 5th and he said that's horse racing, this is wrestling and she replied "I knew that".

Lou Downey

Yes. I would have preferred it if he had taken charge of the situation like he did with Janette and brought Nat across. They could have continued to work on a cure if they wanted, I suppose. If they did still want a cure, their work might have had more importance to them both because they would be trying to save each other. But wouldn't it have been interesting to see how they each dealt with the fact that Nick had brought her across. Nick, of course, would be consumed with guilt and feelings of failure because he was unable to control himself when he drank from her. Natalie would have to deal with Nick's feelings at the same time that she was trying to deal with new urges/needs related to the fact that she was now a vampire. Would she even want to be mortal again or would she like immortality? Hm. Would Nick still love her as a vampire? Hm. Nick's "condition" would no longer be a valid excuse for not taking their relationship to the next level, would it? They have denied themselves for so long, I wonder if they really would want a deeper relationship or if Nick's being a vampire was just a convenient excuse. Nat is pretty conventional. Nick is pretty wild at heart. I would like to see him get involved with a mortal who is just as wild and who can love him for himself. I'm really not sure Natalie loves him as himself or if she loves him as she thinks he could be if he wasn't a vamp. My problem with their relationship is that I'm not sure Nick would really be all that different as a human. What do you think?

Sanguisuga

Frankly, I just cannot see Nat as a vampire. She abhors the very idea! True, she wants to be with Nick, (who wouldn't), but I think in the end, she would resist, and Nick would be unable to bring her across. She would, no doubt, walk into the light, and leave Nick waiting. It all seemed like a rather abrupt change of heart for Nat, and I have to wonder what she was sniffing that night. LaCroix would've destroyed her soon enough. (Thank you, Cousin Sarah, for your mention in last week's question. It's always nice to be recognized.)

RBSkater

Nick should have brought Natalie across. She appeared to expect either of two outcomes, either that Nick would become mortal or, more likely, that she would be brought across. These were the options that she was prepared for and she trusted him to do what he had to either way. I don't believe that she expected or wanted him to allow her to die. I felt that this was a betrayal of her trust. I still keep hoping that the entire episode didn't really occur, but was someone's nightmare.

Benedict

No way!! Natalie represents the very last hope of Nick's desire to regain his mortality. In a way, she represents humanism to Nick's dark element. Take that away and you'll loose a vital element in the equation of the story. Just a thought.

Jackie Wilson

No, I don't believe Nick should have brought Natalie across at the end of Last Knight. And why, because the love that they shared was a forbidden love... like the Romeo and Juliet ending they were thinking of making... to actually have let Natalie become a vampire (or conversely to let Nick become human) would have defeated the whole premise of the series. Consequently, if Nick was to attempt to bring Nat across (as he did) than the proper ending was that she was to die, because to bring the "star-crossed" lovers together would have completely finished the idea of the show itself. I suppose this doesn't explain my answer really well, but its just my thoughts.

Michelle David

Nope. First off, Nick would get even *more* angsty (perish the thought! ;-). Secondly, LaCroix would be rubbing the whole thing in his face (more angst!). And third, a lot of the tension between Natalie and Nick about the search for the cure, her inability to understand his experiences fully, (thus no more kewl scenes such as the description of the blood exchange from Franscesca) etc. would be lost. And then, they'd have to find another mortal character like Nat for a fourth season. It's a cycle. Janette and Nick for seasons 1 & 2, with Nick drawn to Nat, and Natalie would start the cycle again in Janette's place.

Carolyn Alutius

What I think is that the character Natalie is a personification of most vampire fans. Facinated and intrigued by the idea, but not entirely willing to give in. Bringing her across would defeat her point. We need to have someone standing on that edge, getting glimpses into the darker world, but still being able to return to the light.

Marie

Yes, Nick should have brought Natalie across so they could spend eternity loving each other. (Sorry, my romantic side takes over. Not to mention mixing my romantic side and my being a 15y/o teenager doesn't help.<g>)

C. Isabel B.

Yes, if it was the only way to bring Natalie back. She wanted to be together with him forever-- no matter what, and he promised her at least that. And Nick couldn't assure himself that he would be with Nat "on the other side". In fact, he already believes that the scales are against him for entering into Heaven, and we did see more of a return to Nick's darker nature in this past season, therefore, he couldn't be sure that he'd be with Nat when they both were dead. Oh, and his committing suicide is yet another thing aginst him (although it really did give LK a beautiful sort of closure), considering that, to Nicks Medevil (sp?) Catholic beliefs, he'd be damned for his suicide. So it would be better for Nick (and his soul, as he could work towards bettering himself) if he brought Nat across-- and the two of them worked together to find a cure, which they now would have eternity to find. Besides, like they say, "amor vincit onum" or, "love conquers all..." :)

K-A

NO, I think Nick and Natalie should have lived Happiley ever after as Mortals. I do not believe that there will ever be a tv movie, or a new season, so they should of ended everything happy.

Lori Bullers

YES, YES, YES!!!!!!!!!!!!! I've been wondering if anyone else thought that would have made a lot better ending. She has been waiting for him for so long. And she wanted it, just so she could be with Nick if nothing else.

Sheila A. Coneybeer

NO!!! Absolutely not!!! Now that I have established the tenor of my answer, let me elaborate. I think we, as dedicated viewers, earned the right to finally hear Nick say, in front of God and everyone, "Natalie, I love you." I think it was time that Nick finally gave up the angst and be shown to be more than just a fraidy-cat who could only dream of the control needed to 'take only a little'. I feel Nick was old enough and strong enough to do just that. I think it would have left us with possiblities, which regardless of TPTB, we deserved. Nat could still have said, in the future, she couldn't continue or Nick could say it. They could have continued with Nick becoming mortal. There would have been so much more...

Suzanne Scherrer

YES!!! I think that perhaps that move might've given the show new life, so to speak. Nick could agonize, LaCroix could tease and Natalie would have to learn to adjust. I think that although Nat dislikes the idea of killing, etc. She would give it her best shot and try to adapt. She's not an idiot, I'm sure that she would find the up side to vampiric life and try to help Nick from that perspective.

Heidi

Hmmm..... it would have been nice possibly to have her a vampire just so she & Nick could finally be a "real" couple.

Gehirn Karies

Yeah, I think he should have brought her across the room to the f*cking sofa for starters.

Amanda Sullivan

Personally, I like Chris Baxter's answer. Give her choclate and tell Lacroix to hit the road. Cool. I also agree with Sheila, I think that is who it was, when she said we (the audience and Natalie) deserved to hear him say the words, "I LOVE YOU." But with the options you gave us, my answer is that he should have brought her across. Not because I think she felt that was the bargain she made. She was prepared to die or be brought over. I feel she did leave it up to him, but I think it is what she wanted. Some say that she didn't like Nick's vampire side, but I disagree. I think that was what drew her to him, and she wanted to experience it. At least that's what I got from Francesca when they are talking about the blood, and didn't she ask to be brought over in A More Permanent Hell? So, the desire was there for her (INMHO). The only hinderance was Nick and his refusal to bring her across, and yet he made attempts to bring everyone else over at various times. This trivalises their relationship to me. And how could he rest in whatever form of heaven he envisioned believing that he was responsible for her death - especially when it could have been different. As to those that feel this would have limited his search for a cure, he was looking for this a long time before Nat. I see no reason that he would have stopped.

The "Griz"

Well, it all depends on how you look at the situation they were in. Nat appeared like she cared for him deeply and was willing to sacrifice her mortality to love him forever, but he loved her too much to bring her across. If he did, I'm sure there would be conflicts within the Forever Knight circle, (LaCroix, Janette) about her becoming one of them. If he didn't bring her across, there probably would have been more complications with the relationship between Nick and Nat (lovewise at least!). Whatever the consequence, I thought "Last Knight" was done very well, even though almost every good character was killed off.

Watcher

No. Both from aesthetic (yes, Ellen, you're right, if would have drained the show - pun intended!) and simply humane points of view. Thank you, Benedict and Sanguisuga - I'm glad that not everybody on this page has teamed up with LC yet (great character but not one I would like to be associated with; besides, even he doesn't seem to think he's always right - and there is certain something to his really fatal attraction to Nick). No, no defeat, definitely. Or there's no point in reviving the show - because as a defeat, LK worked perfectly. And I think that there *is* the point in FK going on.

Susan Bennett

NO!!! Nat laid out all the options and let Nick make the final decision. He made the right one - to emerge from his World of Darkness - from his endless ...Forever Night. (The operation was a success - but the patient died <g>)

Debbie Keith

NO! If Nick brings Nat across, it's a total denial of all he believes. The entire premise is his struggle to regain mortality. But please understand I am one of those who flatly refuses to believe this episode ever aired!!!!!!

S.E. Brooks

No. Natalie only wanted to become a vampire when she got stressed. Thank God, she didn't have PMS. She would have driven Nick crazy after a couple months. Anyway her role was as the mortal as opposed to LaCroix as vampire.

Nik

Natalie a vampire, hmmmm......nope, don't see it.

Kimberly A. Wethington

I think he should have. These two characters did love one another and want to be together. It certainly didn't look like they were going to make Nick mortal any time soon. Natalie had asked Nick several times before to bring her across.

Pamela

Yes! Definately. Nick and Nat had suffered enough being apart, of course this is what brought us back to the show time after time. It would have been way fab for Nick and Nat to have the truly "endless love."

Navidia

I am really not sure. For those of us out there who love the idea of true love, forever, it's a great idea. But for those of us who know how hard it can be to stand someone for a long period of time, we know that they would kill each other. If Natalie were to become immortal, it would ruin the entire chemistry of the vampire-mortal love. Besides, though most of us really want Nick to regress to the killer, we all know that it would destroy the entire point of the show. I guess that means no.

Debi Hagborg

Yes... She was willing to give up everything, Nick was the only thing in Natalie's life that mattered.

Michelle Bean

For a fictional answer to this question please refer to the "Virtual Season" 4 - episode 1. Personally I feel anyone who was as opposed to the realities of vampirism as Nat was could not have expected to become one and still remain the same person. She would have resented the act and probably Nick as well (eventually). However if the show would have gone in a "pro-vampire" direction I feel this could have been resolved. My .02