Question:
What should be addressed in a Forever Knight movie?

LB Burstiner

Definitely, what happened in Last Knight. We need to know what happened to Nick and Natalie, where they are now, and what Lacroix did. I also think the death of Tracy needs to be dealt with, because in some way, even though Tracy and Nick were not close, it had to have affected him. It would also add some interesting tension for Janette to return, now that in a sense she "belongs" to Nick.

Missy Sackett

A Forever Knight movie should at least devulge a little more into how Nick was chosen to become a vampire in the first place. There are episodes with LaCroix as human that explained who brought him across and why. Well, we know the "who" brought Nick across, but what about the why? It would be interesting to see how a movie could evolve Nat and Nick's relationship as well.

Sharon Bauman

A movie version should incorporate the best aspects of the series: how LaCroix, Nick, & Janette became vampires [for starters, obviously]. I think there should be some emphasis on Nick wanting to become mortal again, but not to the lengths it went in the series. I think one of the successes of the series was the fact that the themes dealt with character development & interaction, rather than the usual bloodbath-type vampire stuff. Flashbacks would be a good way to bring up to speed those who aren't regular viewers of the series. I'd like to see Ben Bass [Vachon] and Urs in the movie version, with larger roles to play. As for what should be addressed, Nick's motivation for righting wrongs he committed in his earlier days when he killed victims for their blood. LaCroix's relationship with Nick - which I thought was brought out excellently in Ashes to Ashes. Nick's relationship with Natalie [but give her some depth & quit her whining so much]; the whole angst of being a vampire & what it means & does to a person. There were so many good examples of this in the series, it's difficult to narrow them down. Basically, if a movie were to be made, the movie should be true to the strengths of the series. It should not be made gory, bloody, & violent to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Like I said, I think one of the strengths of the series was the character development, their complexity, their emotions, desires, & dilemmas. And don't forget to include several of LaCroix's monologues. Also, give Ger a chance to show a little more humor. He's so good at that!

Joseph Cohen

I think that they address the aspect of Natelie being brought over.

Karen

To name a few: A real honest to goodness closure. We all are assuming Natalie and Nick somehow survived Last Knight. Several people in different areas have also addressed Vachon's continued existance and the possibility that Janette was brought across by Nick. Actually, I wouldn't want closure, Continuance is much better!!

KnightByrd

Beyond the obvious (Is Nat dead? <yes..no..maybe> and Did LaCroix stake Nick? <absolutly NOT!!>), I would like to see the Nick/LaCroix relationship explored in greater detail. Those two have come so far since DK, where N tried to kill LC, and KI, where it seemed the wall between them would never be breached. LC's "You love life.." speech is the first non-baiting thing I remember hearing him say; he seems truly concerned for his son. And Nick has openly admitted "You are my closest friend." It seems they now have a kind of truce between them and that truce should be explored. Of course they will still disagree, but it would be nice to see that "tear-out-your-throat" fighting stop.

Arletta

Absolutely, the characters should be rescued from the ending of Last Knight! I want Nick, Natalie, and Lacroix all to be in the movie and still trying to resolve their different perspectives on 'life'. I would also prefer to see Urse, Vachon, and Tracy there too, also having been rescued from their various 'deaths' by one means or another. As a subplot you could also have Janette present but rather hostile towards Nick for his actions in 'Human Factor'. To reiterate, my favorite interactions are between the trio ---Nick, Natalie, and Lacroix. And if they are not present and trying to resolve their point of views them I couldn't enjoy the movie.

Margie

The first thing that should be addressed is how Nick and Nat survived Last Knight. Because of course, they both did! Then, they should address how Nick finally grows into an independent, reasonably happy person, who isn't pushed first one way and then the other by LaCroix and Natalie. Of course, this will take some time, and requires a series of movies, not just one. They should also address how Nick and Natalie are finally able to have the relationship they want, complete with a good love scene. If Nick were to become mortal at the end of this series of movies, they should address how this affects LaCroix, and how it affects LaCroix' and Nick's relationship. This part would be sad, I think, but I wouldn't want it to be angry.

Reva

I think first and foremost, the fate of Nick Knight should be addressed in the Forever Knight movie. Then we should find out what happened to Natalie. I think the movie should revolve around Janette's anger at Nick for bringing her across when she asked him not to.

Raven

Depends. If it's only the movie and that's it, then I'd say have Nick come to terms with his vampireism (is that a word?). This doesn't mean he has to go out on a killing spree, but I'd like to see him stop whining. This my sound harsh, but I don't want him to regain his mortality. I think he should accept what he is, whether or not he enjoys it. If he feels guilty about killing, let him drink cow for all eternity and continue saving others using his vampire abilities. He wouldn't have been able to help people nearly as well without them, so he should use them more. The other thing that definatly has to happen is Vachon coming back (Well, I'd say that no matter what), Tracy took the stake out so it shouldn't be a problem to have him show up again. Another possiblity (shoot it down if you like), would be to have had Vachon bring Tracy across (the explination to her death at the hospital).

Beverly Turner

Did LaCroix actually stake Nick? (I think he did.) How did Nick survive? Does Nat survive? How? I would like to see a continuance of Last Knight, that deals with these issues.

Marie

I agree with a lot of what Raven said. I would hope that who ever wrote the movie, would really work hard on coming up with ways on how Vachon, Urs, Screed, and Tracy could come back alive or un-alive since *no* *one* died. Hey, Schanke could even come back as a ghost or as a secret vampire or... That and they should work on Nick and Nat's relationship, they left us hanging. Nick should also accept what he is and get over it. Sorry if that's a little harsh, but someone needed to say it. Vachon should definetly be shown more and worked on learning about him (Can you tell I'm a proud Vaquera?) since he would be around in the movie. When they finish the movie, they could leave the end open for a season 4 and we can all celebrate!!! I am in a very bad case of denial and FK withdrawl, if anyone was wondering.

K-A

NICK AND NATALIE'S RELATIONSHIP. It was totally jipped in the finale.

Schism

A story line that includes flash backs to divia's master. Also having Natalie live through the big munch. They left room for it. The possibilities for story lines are as endless as the 800 years that our fav vampire lived.

Watcher

I believe it must be first of all events - or rather way out from the events - of LK which, whatever many of you would like to do to me, DID happen (in reality or in a dream is another matter). Knighties or Cousins, Perkulators or Vaqueras, Schkankers or Jeannette-ists, we are all FK admirers and can't afford to drop actual part of the show, moreover so greatly done as is good deal of the last ep. So the issue for the movie would be - what *really* happened in LK? The simplest way, already offered in fanfic, is to have Nick wake up in cold sweat much like he does in the end of "Curioser and Curioser". But we love FK-makers exactly for their tendency NOT to go for easier ways - and that one would mean to lose priceless interplay between Nick and LaCroix at the end (if it was a dream, what value would it have?) So the solution may be some slipping into alternative reality and back again or - don't kill me Anti-Trekkers! - time travel (i.e., day or some hours back - who knows what tricks LC could learn during his long experience?) I personally, however, is tempted by introduction of some different - non-human and non-vampire - being with special powers (elf! Just kidding), especially what with so many characters being killed out (sob!) As one of fanfic authors put it - Another Kind. Now that could start a whole new span of events.

Sheila A. Coneybeer

First, Last Knight has to be explained. Secondly, Vachon has to be revived. The interplay between Nick and Vachon was fun to watch. Tracy is not a necessity, but nice to have because it ties Vachon and Nick together better than the vampire connection. What happened to Janette, exactly? How does she feel about what Nick appears to have done? We know how LaCroix feels. Urs and Screed, like Tracy are not necessities but nice to haves. Of course, Nat is a must. I think they need a new police captain and drop the watercooler gag. I would like to see a story that concentrates less on the flashbacks and more on the relationships the characters have with one another and mortal society. There is plenty of material in the just expanding the characters and making them grow.

Julian Luna

Okay, First of all I think that neither Natalie or Nick died, it's quite interesting that at the last episode they did not show LaCroix exactly stabbing Nick. I think that if a movie is to be made it should bring both Nick and Nat back again. As for Jeannette, something tells me she became a vampire again, after all who left that painting with LaCroix?, and Nick himself said "She must have left it here today", so definitely on a movie Jeannette should return. As for Tracy..... hmmm I have no idea about Tracy, to bring her back won't make much sense. Here it is if Nick did get stabbed, but came back (after all he is a vampire), so will Vachon, sinse he died the same way, but then what of Divia?, she could return as well. They should also explain how the heck Nick became a vampire, why was he chosen and what was he like as a human? One thing is, if a movie is made, it will have to somehow make sense. And I think Lacroix should remain the same, and more background info on Vachon should be created. Flashbacks is a good way to do this.

Jody Aldred

The potential for plots addressing Nick and Nat surviving LK are endless. I would like to see the writers address how Nick and Nat's relationship would change. I also don't believe LaCroix would give up that easily and kill Nick especially when there is finally a truce or understanding between them. I would hope the writer could come up with a story line that would help Nick forgive himself if only a little so that he is not on a guilt trip all the time. If he was truly so guilt ridden, he committed suicide long before now. What I most admire about FK is the character interactions and emotional involvement with each other. I would hope that such involvement would be a primary focus and not so much whining and lecturing etc. That would would be like watching "Leave It To Beaver" with a with a little of "Interview With A Vampire" on the side.

Ken Kapoor

Naa, no need! It was perfect the way it ended. :)

Troy Farrell

Obviously, they'd start by getting back as many "dead" characters as they could. Then they'd probably set the basis for any future movies, ie. does the cast stay in Toronto or move on? How many would stay and how many would go to a new location? It's tough because you have to be realistic but also not lose too much of the good parts that everyone liked. Perhaps the movie could be entirely made up of historical material taking place in a time period which was usually the site of a flashback sequence... with the final scene being Nick waking up in the same room where the last episode ended, with Lacroix standing over him growling "Did you really think I would kill you?" and Natalie standing nearby with the gleam of the undead flashing in her eye... Make way for the next movie!?!?

K. Port

Natalie and Nick HAVE to get it on. Sorry to be so blunt, but aren't we all thinking that?

Susan Bennett

Last Knight - Nick and Nat. And they BOTH have to be alive or Nick would be the biggest slime on the face of the earth. As the doctor said in LNMTA, I'd rather "cut out my own heart" than believe that. Although in fiction I don't mind Nat being brought across, I just can't see that in a movie either. I understand there are many fans who don't see vampirism as "evil", but in FK vampirism *is* evil. The whole point of the show is Nick trying to free himself of that evil (by becoming mortal/redemption for his sins). He loves Nat too much to turn her into what he detests about himself. I don't think the characters or their relationships should be watered down. Without Nick's inner turmoil, LaCroix's taunting, Nat's search for a cure, and Nick and Nat's lonely love, it would not be Forever Knight - it would be a ghost of what Forever Knight once was. My conclusion: the most important thing to address in an FK Movie - Last Knight - just whose dream was that anyway?

Sanguisuga

Firstly, we all know LaCroix hadn't the heart to kill his son. Tracey could have been revived, had Vachon survived, but I somehow doubt he was. And Nat is simply lying on the floor, whether dead or alive, no-one can say. Personally, I could do without her... don't massacre me, please. So, who do we have? Lacroix and Nick. As sorry as it makes me, Janette is truly gone. Nick understood her struggles far better than even she did, and he would not betray her last wish, only to condemn her twice. Only two remain, and they would have to move on. It would be nice to keep the interplay between the characters, but most of them are gone!! Everything is ashes! New storylines must be implemented. Perhaps a search for the beginning, the first vampire. Of course, out of respect for A. Rice, their search must not led them to Egpyt. I'm interested in knowing more of LaCroix's life, his mortal daughter, and immortal master. Did she create more like him, undead brethren? Did LaCroix create others besides Nick and Janette? How about Nick's children? There is so much to explore, perhaps we should let the series, as it stands now, go...

Danielle Goldstein

They should adress friendship, honesty, and get GWD back. (It would stink with someone else.) They should have more brutal cases (to attract customers) and not alot of gore.

Magda

I would love to see the movie pick up right where it left off. Lacroix raising the staff and instead of ramming it through Nick he just says "Ha- Ha made you flinch!" Nick looks up at him and that guilty look he wore throughout the entire series is finally erased off his face. LaCroix exclaims "are we finally done with this little play?" Nick nods, and it finally becomes obvious that his entire search for mortality and his relationship with Nat was just a little game he played with LaCroix to help pass eternity away. They then fly off to San Francisco to start a new life and another game which will last a few decades. The movie will address this new "game" or rather diversion. Now, if this is a little too radical, perhaps the movie could be an extended flashback of LaCroix's life without Nicholas or Jeanette. It could introduce another vampire, a pre-Nicholas figure in LaCroix's life. The movie would address their relationship and how it affected him and made him so clingy with Nicholas later in his life. If this vampire could be portrayed by Adam Ant I would be in absolute heaven!

Cousin Sarah

Reading the QotW tonight, I had a thought- these are good ideas! Sanguisuga had a great thread- What if we saw LaCroix going on alone, thinking back on life before Nick, and what made him so determined to "convert" Nick to "the vampire way"? Another thought- Having LaCroix thinking back to his life with Nick before FK began- flashbacks we never saw- and how he actually learned a few things from Nick. All this could take place without letting us know what happened after Last Knight, (whether or not Nick or Nat's dead) etc. If it's a movie, they could either end with telling us who's alive or leave us hanging. If it's a real 4th season, MAKE US WAIT! This scenario lets GWD finish whatever he's doing, (BH) and lets Uncle have the series for a while. He certainly would have no trouble carrying it!

George Spelvin

Thank you Julian Luna for including in your answer the end of the episode in which Jeanette (possibly) becomes mortal! Jeanette is still immortal because she left the portrait at the Raven after she had supposedly died. True, Nick would never condemn her a second time by bringing her across, so that is not why she is still alive. It must be that her formula for becoming mortal didn't work. Anyway, she is available for a movie and should be included. Kapoor is not far off the mark when he says LK was perfect the way it was, much as I would have preferred the series to continue forever. Nick's refusal to bring Natalie across proves as nothing else could that he has repented. Why would Lacroix give up and kill Nick precisely when there seems to be a truce or understanding between them? Because he finally realizes that Nick cannot be what Lacroix wants him to be--he finally understands him that well--and maybe even cares enough about him to put him out of his misery. After all, if Nick wants eternal salvation, he simply cannot commit suicide, no matter how guilt-ridden he is. Nick is a product of 13th C. Christianity and he knows that committing suicide would send him straight to hell. To commit suicide is to commit the ultimate sin of despair. (No, I don't believe suicides are damned, but I'm a product of modern psychological theories of chemical imbalences--which of course don't apply to poor Nick because he's not exactly human.) So how else could he end it all? There are not too many ways to kill vampires (& most of them don't always work on FK because the writers so often discover that there's more to write about if certain vampires mysteriously resusciate!) Lacroix's staking of Nick is perhaps the kindest thing he has ever done for him. Did he really do it out of kindness & understanding? Maybe. But I find it easier to believe that he did it in anger. (Is this the first hint he has that Nick loves Natalie?) Lacroix's final words "Damn you, Nicholas!" can be seen as ironic, coming as it does, from Lacroix. Nick may have just been "damned" to eternal life in heaven with his beloved Natalie. But we don't KNOW that because it is not in the style of FK to have someone like Monica send a dove. Perfect as it is, I still am greedy enough to want a sequel. It should explain what happened in LK, include as many characters as possible, explain how Lacroix survived the pilot, and give Natalie & Nick a chance at happiness (& Jeanette, too).